收到税务的罚单!

没事,应该的。真不想看到同胞们花钱买经验。

好多人真的不清楚, 真的是用钱买教训的。

怎么关闭self-assessment 账户,我15-16年度要做,16年以后没有再工作了没有任何收入,按理不用做self-assessment但不知道要怎么关闭账户。

给大家看看appeal被接纳的理由

. Reasonable excuses

You can appeal against some penalties if you have a reasonable excuse, for example for your return or payment being late.

What may count as a reasonable excuse
A reasonable excuse is something that stopped you meeting a tax obligation that you took reasonable care to meet, for example:

your partner or another close relative died shortly before the tax return or payment deadline
you had an unexpected stay in hospital that prevented you from dealing with your tax affairs
you had a serious or life-threatening illness
your computer or software failed just before or while you were preparing your online return
service issues with HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC) online services
a fire, flood or theft prevented you from completing your tax return
postal delays that you couldn’t have predicted
delays related to a disability you have
You must send your return or payment as soon as possible after your reasonable excuse is resolved.

申诉不被采纳的理由:
What won’t count as a reasonable excuse
The following won’t be accepted as a reasonable excuse:

you relied on someone else to send your return and they didn’t
your cheque bounced or payment failed because you didn’t have enough money
you found the HMRC online system too difficult to use
you didn’t get a reminder from HMRC
you made a mistake on your tax return

哪些人必须开SA的,请看如下

Who must send a tax return

The tax year is from 6 April to 5 April the following year.
You’ll need to send a tax return if, in the last tax year:

you were self-employed - you can deduct allowable expenses
you got £2,500 or more in untaxed income, for example from tips or renting out a property - contact the helpline if it was less than £2,500
your income from savings or investments was £10,000 or more before tax
your income from dividends from shares was £10,000 or more before tax
you made profits from selling things like shares, a second home or other chargeable assets and need to pay Capital Gains Tax
you were a company director - unless it was for a non-profit organisation (such as a charity) and you didn’t get any pay or benefits, like a company car------这一条就是我在前面回复里提到的情况,必须交SA
your income (or your partner’s) was over £50,000 and one of you claimed Child Benefit
you had income from abroad that you needed to pay tax on
you lived abroad and had a UK income
your taxable income was over £100,000
you were a trustee of a trust or registered pension scheme
you had a P800 from HMRC saying you didn’t pay enough tax last year - and you didn’t pay what you owe through your tax code or with a voluntary payment
your State Pension was more than your Personal Allowance and was your only source of income - unless you started getting your pension on or after 6 April 2016

If you used to send a tax return but don’t need to send one for the last tax year, you can contact HMRC to close your Self Assessment account. You must also tell HMRC if you’ve stopped being self-employed.


有几种方法可以通知HMRC
It is important to ‘sign-off’ from self-employment when you have stopped being self-employed. The best course is to write to HMRC (or use the on-line form) and say that you have stopped being self-employed, as soon as this happens. HMRC will not know that you have stopped being self-employed simply because you now work as an employee, or are claiming out of work benefits.
When you stop being self-employed you should:
Notify HMRC at once that you have stopped self-employment. This can be done via an on-line form
If you are registered for VAT, consider when to cancel your VAT registration – VAT registration: Cancel registration - GOV.UK
If you are working in the Construction Industry – notify HMRC on the Construction Industry helpline (0300 200 3210) that you are no-longer working in Construction
Complete a self-assessment tax return to cover your last period of trading. You will need to wait until the end of the tax year to do this
Take advice if you have sold your business, business assets or business property – you could in some cases make a capital gain
Pay any outstanding tax
Keep your business records, usually for 6 years
Ensure that HMRC has your correct address for the 12 months following submission of your final tax return. Give HMRC a forwarding address if you move within 12 months
See also the HMRC pages on closing your business Stop being self-employed - GOV.UK and Closing a limited company - GOV.UK

在线申请关闭SA账户链接看这里
https://www.tax.service.gov.uk/shortforms/form/CeaseTrading?dept-name=&sub-dept-name=&location=43&origin=http://www.hmrc.gov.uk


最后一遍,很重要很重要很重要!!!!,不是你通知了HMRC就拉倒了哦就不用管了,工作没做完哦,没做完哦。请仔细阅读上面每一条。比如这一条 Complete a self-assessment tax return to cover your last period of trading. You will need to wait until the end of the tax year to do this


还有再说一遍,麻烦大家把RECORDS存档,避免日后纠葛。比如这一条Keep your business records, usually for 6 years

记住,你申请关闭后,不代表就顺利关掉,也不代表从此以后没有其他活儿要干,更不代表你可以不保存记录。一句话很复杂,麻烦自己和HMRC确认再确认。
特别在反复看这几条
Complete a self-assessment tax return to cover your last period of trading. You will need to wait until the end of the tax year to do this
Take advice if you have sold your business, business assets or business property – you could in some cases make a capital gain
Pay any outstanding tax
Keep your business records, usually for 6 years
Ensure that HMRC has your correct address for the 12 months following submission of your final tax return. Give HMRC a forwarding address if you move within 12 months

如果大家有SA账号,之前也有申报过,没了收入以后却没有妥善处理后续事宜,会有不少麻烦。
我建议大家仔细阅读官方资料,对照着自己情况自己好好把收尾工作做好。免得有后遗症。

Dangers of not notifying HMRC at once
If you fail to notify HMRC at once that you have stopped being self-employed, you could find that HMRC continues to send you self-assessment tax returns after you have stopped trading. If you ignore these returns you could be liable for penalties. In addition, HMRC may create an estimated tax bill if you do not complete and submit the tax returns on time. These estimated debts are legally due and can only be displaced by sending in a tax return within 3 years of the filing date for the return. Outside this time limit it may not be possible to change the bill.
Example:
Alan stopped trading on 30 May 2016 and took a job as an employee. He did not tell HMRC that he had stopped trading and moved house shortly afterwards without giving HMRC a forwarding address. Even though Alan was only trading for a few months in the tax year to 5 April 2017, he will need to complete a tax return for that year. It is likely that he will be sent a tax return for the tax year to 5 April 2018 as well.

关闭 SA 账号,大家可以在线申请提交,连接在在。
https://www.tax.service.gov.uk/shortforms/form/CeaseTrading?dept-name=&sub-dept-name=&location=43&origin=http://www.hmrc.gov.uk

重要:!!!!!申请关闭以后不是一了百了丢一边不管了哦,还有些收尾活儿。前面我贴出来了,大家一定要牢记。否则很多后遗症。

谢谢楼上,非常详细。

我曾经是公司股东的公司去年7月关闭了,去年一月以后就没有trading了,可以用这个表格通知HMRC to stop SA吗?

你就用这张通知他们。递交后过段时间他们会有确认信的,如果没收到确认信记得一直盯着他们。
也可以打电话确认。不过HMRC有的客服好像不怎么很清楚,有的信息他们系统里看不到有滞后性,这是他们和我说的。

不对,可以跟他们解释取消罚款。完全看里面的人自己理解。我之前开过贴,帮朋友申报,我自己犯错误没有最后提交,然后我朋友也没看邮件,罚款越来越多。最后是没交钱的,求情成功了。
我侄子伦敦房子出租也是没申报,最后也是解释求情,他们也把罚款取消了。
英国这边很多事情要靠会求情。

搞不明白,一个瘪三狗天天嘴巴里是卖B卖B,难以想象他是靠什么被养大的,难道是靠他家人从事这行业?耳濡目染惯了? {:5_132:} 那他一家得卖掉多少只啊。
不容易啊,一家人牺牲真大。牺牲再大,养大了也是没工作吃女人软饭的瘪三 {:5_138:} {:5_146:}

哈哈哈 有才呀

好奇怪,我老公是打工的,不是自己开公司。在这个公司工作的前两年都不用填sa的。可是今年收到hmrc的信要他填sa。好奇怪。

工资太高了

和工资高有什么关系吗?他今年工资是涨了,可是也没涨多少阿。

所以谁说只有自雇才需要开SA是害死人的说法啊,很多人用一句话概括只有自雇和开公司的才需要SA是不完全覆盖所有信息的。

我把下面不属于自雇也不属于法人但是也必须开SA的情况中文都给你画出来了。你自己一条条比照吧。

如果你们确定自己不是其中任何一个情况,那就联系HMRC要求关闭SA。如果你们符合下面任何一条,赶快赶在截止日期前交SA吧

Who must send a tax return

The tax year is from 6 April to 5 April the following year.
You’ll need to send a tax return if, in the last tax year:

you were self-employed - you can deduct allowable expenses

you got £2,500 or more in untaxed income, for example from tips or renting out a property - contact the helpline if it was less than £2,500——房租和小费等

your income from savings or investments was £10,000 or more before tax——-投资和存款收益超过1万

your income from dividends from shares was £10,000 or more before tax

you made profits from selling things like shares, a second home or other chargeable assets and need to pay Capital Gains Tax——卖房卖股票和其他资产而获利了(需要付资本得利税的)

you were a company director - unless it was for a non-profit organisation (such as a charity) and you didn’t get any pay or benefits, like a company car

your income (or your partner’s) was over £50,000 and one of you claimed Child Benefit——-一方收入超过5万并且拿了儿童福利

you had income from abroad that you needed to pay tax on——-有境外收入

you lived abroad and had a UK income
——-住在国外但是有英国境内收入

your taxable income was over £100,000
——–收入超过10万

you were a trustee of a trust or registered pension scheme ———还有这条

you had a P800 from HMRC saying you didn’t pay enough tax last year - and you didn’t pay what you owe through your tax code or with a voluntary payment———和这条

your State Pension was more than your Personal Allowance and was your only source of income - unless you started getting your pension on or after 6 April 2016
—�-和这条

上面那个软饭男,你意淫中的facebook 的job offer 都拿了大半年了还不去报告?小扎放了你的白鸽子吗?不是吧!你不是还有英国领事馆的亲戚可以给你通通路子嘛!可以把小扎个抓起来嘛!

活在虚拟世界里天天靠幻觉自吹自擂能让你家庭更幸福?能让医生老婆不上夜班?能让岳父看得起你? {:5_138:}

如果最后不能取消SA,记得准时提交

Paper tax returns need to be filed by 31 October. So for tax returns relating to the year April 2016 to April 2017, for example, all paper returns should be submitted by 31 October 2017.
The deadline for filing online is three months later – 31 January. So tax returns for the year April 2016 to April 2017 can be filed online up to 31 January 2018.