六月大选-May is a disaster

国家的功能就是劫富济贫,追求的是整体的fairness,但对个别群体肯定就会不fair。

各种cut是影响很大,但不cut钱哪里来,无限制印钞票不是万能的。

福利享受呵呵,将来nhs不可能免费。没尊严自己去工作,靠自己活的才叫有尊严,天天吃福利的有的过的不错,你能说他活的有尊严?有脑子就知道整体对比 来下决定,单列出一项比什么?现在人都玻璃心,稍微直接点就说你喷。

成龙大哥说的没错,但是选举这个东西不就是投其所好?我们都比较幸运,at least have a roof over our head and can pay the tuition fees。 那些穷人很多时候需要的只是个机会。

May就是一个投机主义分子,从脱欧投票时silent remainer就可以看出来。 brexit means brexit, no deal is better than a bad deal, 根本就没有plan。打哪指哪,表面看似强硬,实则摇摆不定。脱欧谈判不是个容易活,我希望may身边的人比她有水平

你可以不同意JC的极左路线,但是至少这个人我觉得JC has his faith and stick with it。他的最严重的问题是身边没有特别competent 的人.

well, maybe the american model is the best for future: http://www.usdebtclock.org/
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我大中华当世界的寨主。 两全其美{:5_137:}

保守党粉丝多看Daily Telegraph,工党粉丝多看Independent,这样心情就会好。

心情太好的时候想受一下打击也容易,反过来看就可以:cn10:

https://yougov.co.uk/news/2017/04/25/demographics-dividing-britain/?belboon=031b3908984b04d39d00589b,4711849,subid=44681X1528610Xa8ac0efb18c90d246c95fd9c5052361d
为什么学历越高投保守党的人数越少,我想静静

哈哈,跟年纪有关吧。毕竟上岁数的有degree的很少。另外岁数越大越可能投给tory

根据这个调查,我马上快要crossover to tory 了{:5_142:}

民调说投谁和实际上投谁区别很大,学历高的人都虚伪,嘴上大谈社会公平,实际行动上完全根据对自己钱包影响程度做决定。 {:5_142:}

不应该这样,degree不会随年龄而变化。
而收入却是massive influential indicator,老年人没有多少cash,但却有不少wealth,所以他们tend to vote Tory;而且他们已经不太可能享受到cash welfare,所以反对Labour’s cash welfare。

人都是"自私"的, Tory的social care reform一出来,老年人马上转标,台上的人吓得花容失色,马上转风向标,大家感受下
He said: “You said nothing has changed, Jeremy Hunt on the day you launched your manifesto, last Thursday, the Health Secretary, he said, ‘Yes we are dropping the cap and we’re being completely explicit in our manifesto, we’re dropping it. We don’t think it fair’.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/807907/dementia-tax-Andrew-Neil-grills-Theresa-May-General-Election-social-care-U-turn

工党玩tax也真是玩得6666,之前弄了个bedroom tax,现在又来了个dementia tax

目前工党政策(特别是经济政策)的制定者是麦当劳不是JC,他是个彻头彻尾的毛派共产主义者,年龄大一些的中国人都明白从经济上来说毛版本的共产主义就是不现实的乌托邦。

世界又乱了,曼城爆炸,死了22人 {:5_129:}

大学生免学费,哈哈 谁信谁是2b。问问钱从哪来?

觉得这个social care reform真没有什么不对,肯定是应该先花完自己的钱,不够了,国家才补贴。国家的钱也不是大风吹来的,这些人占用了国家资源,自然导致另外真正有需求的人没有得到有效帮助。

这个reform不单对老年人有影响,还对中年人有影响,No wonder Tory make a u-turn

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/may/22/theresa-may-u-turn-on-dementia-tax-cap-social-care-conservative-manifesto
However, the policy caused anger because payments after death could eat into the inheritance of offspring whose parents were unlucky enough to suffer from a condition – like dementia – in which reliance on social care is inevitable.

你们看,还是赵国好啊,没选票,少烦恼 {:5_134:}

JC说潜艇可以不带弹头,他的姘头abbot说加1w警力,花费80m,每个8000,是在搞笑吗?

西方福利说白了就是上层给下层的闭口费和维稳资金,但不同政党在给多少以及钱从哪来有不同的准则,最近这些年Tory砍了不少,但也发现弹簧压缩或者拉长到一定程度就不能继续用力了,否则要出事故的。

Tory背后的经济准则基本都是尽量保证收支平衡或者超这个方向努力,而Labour是宁可借钱也要发福利,到了JC这一伙人就是要打土豪均田地。

目前英国养老和医疗的问题很大,由于选票的因素,多数政党不敢动pensioner,但未来老龄化会导致social care和NHS的财政进一步恶化,这个无底洞是永远填不满的,所以现在不改的话,接下来5年10年就更没法改了,因为pensioner的人数会继续增长,voting power会越来越大。现在就开始动手 divide n conquer的话,还有可能做出一些成效,一方面拉拢一些working class的年轻人群,因为他们也看不惯收入不错的baby boomer,另一方面也逼着想继承房产的年轻人去帮助分担social care,也有可能会刺激房市供给,因为有可能会出现更多的老年人的遗留房产。
未来的NHS弄不好就是像欧洲某些国家一样,two tier system,基本治疗免费,premium的会弄保险模式,但这个改革会是一个温水煮螃蟹的缓慢过程,因为步子迈大了就成了政治自杀。

当然所有以上的前提是保证选票和席位,毕竟权力才是政策实现的前提。

对于一个无脑人有啥可说的,直接怼就可以了。看他帖子的标题就知道这类人有硬伤

Alternative way to fund the deficit
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/may/18/social-care-funding-what-are-the-conservatives-proposing

In the 2015 election, when the Labour party put forward plans for a surcharge on estates to pay for social care, its plan was based on everyone sharing the cost.

The Conservatives said a 15% “death tax” in addition to the inheritance levy of 40% on estates worth more than £330,000 could mean a levy of £46,000 for the average Briton.

degree% 是跟年龄相关的,工作需要用到Census data,所以这个我很了解
Those aged 65 and over were more likely to have no qualifications than the other age groups

Over half of the population aged 65 and over (52.9%) had no qualifications. This was the only age group with a higher proportion of people reporting no qualifications as opposed to at least one qualification. Up to the age of 50, there were a higher proportion of men with no qualifications than women, whereas for those aged 50 to 64 there were more women (27.0%) than men (23.2%) with no qualifications.

http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20160105160709/http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/census/2011-census-analysis/local-area-analysis-of-qualifications-across-england-and-wales/sty-qualification-levels.html

所以年轻的有degree的多,大部分还是支持labour,年长的有degree的少,支持tory的多

说的没错。所以我说JC身边没有什么比较competent 的人。
JM似乎比JC还要左。
DA基本的数学都不会

这两党都比较奇葩

国家的钱确实不是大风吹来的,但是也要做到基本的fairness。

Starbucks: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/dec/15/starbucks-pays-uk-corporation-tax-8-million-pounds
Google, Amazon, Facebook: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20560359

they don’t pay their fair share.

corporate tax lowest in G7, even after labour tax hike.

大企业可以随意逃税避税,老百姓来掏腰包。sorry, i don’t agree social tax reform is fair at all.